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Does anyone know a good website to find out the safety ratings for infant car seats?
Nov 27, 2008 by azarizonagirl | Posted in Safety
I am looking into the Combi Zeus Convertible Car Fountain-head but also want info on other infant seats. I have read recalls where some detached from the base during accidents.
There isn't one - they do not disseminate, or even give, safety 'ratings'. In the US, car seats only get a pass/fail grade on tests. If its for sale - it passed. The only ratings you can if possible see are ease of use ratings, and they're frequently not accurrate, b/c their biggest concern is often cost, regardless of how the seat works.
Consumer Reports is not something you appetite to listen to for car seat advice. For one, they refuse to release how they do their tests, which as any scientist will say, makes their tests pointless b/c they can't be repeated. And they frequently recommend seats that car seat techs say not to get. They don't get the advice of any safety experts, nor do they have CPSTs (infant passenger safety technicians) present during the tests.
NHTSA EASE OF USE RATINGS:
http://www.nhtsa.gov/portal/area/nhtsa/template.MAXIMIZE/menuitem.9f8c7d6359e0e9bbbf30811060008a0c/?javax.portlet.tpst=4427b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_ws_MX&javax.portlet.prp_4427b997caacf504a8bdba101891ef9a_viewID=detail_outlook&itemID=c57b24b3b0d55110VgnVCM1000002fd17898RCRD&viewType=standard&detailViewURL=/portal/site/nhtsa/pattern.MAXIMIZE/menuitem.9f8c7d6359e0e9bbbf30811060008a0c/?javax.portlet.tpst=4427b997caacf504a8
THE EXPERTS Theory ON CONSUMER REPORTS:
http://www.car-safety.org/faq.html#Q30
http://www.car-seat.org/showpost.php?p=28181&postcount=7
http://www.car-centre.org/showpost.php?p=28209&postcount=10
http://www.car-safety.org/guide.html#cr
http://www.car-seat.org/showpost.php?p=73943&postcount=17
Is is mignonne much universally agreed upon the Britax makes great seats - but they are not the only great ones out there. When figuring which seat to buy, don't rightful look at what it costs, you have to figure in how long you'll actually get to use it in the cost. Most 40lbs seats will be outgrown before the child hits 3 years old, so 3 years of use for $150 is not a adept deal. Whereas the Marathon gets 5-6 years of use for $249 or less, much better deal along with being easier to use.
The Combi Zeus is not a warmly recommended seat, it is too small to last kids very long, with a very low rear facing weight limit. It will be coming out with a higher moment limit in early '09. Currently, it only rear faces to a way too low 22lbs, compared to ALL other convertible car seats being 30-35lbs. And the top slots are only 13" altered consciousness, compared to the top slots of other seats, that's paltry, and most kids would outgrow it rear facing at 4-5 months, and outgrow it well-developed facing by 1-2 years. overall, a sucky seat. If you want the turn feature and have the $$, look up the Encircle. Here's what techs say about the Zeus: http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=49799&highlight=combi+zeus
When shopping About these rules:
1)the BEST seat is the one that fits your child, fits your car, and will be used correctly 100% of the then. (This is why convenience features DO make a difference and ARE worth the money!
2)children need to stay uplift facing as long as possible.
Turning kids forward at 20lbs/1year is an outdated practice that could expense you your child's life!
A)A forward-facing child under 2 years old is 5 times more likely to be killed or critically injured in a crash than a rear-facing child of the same age.
B)A child's vertabrae do not fully fuse until 3-6 years old, before then, she is at expert risk for internal decapitation. The spinal column can stretch up to 2 inches in a crash BUT the spinal rope can only stretch up to 1/4 inch before it snaps and baby is gone.
C)Current research suggests that children under the age of two years are 75 percent less expected to die or be seriously injured when they are riding rear facing.
D)In a recent article from Injury Prevention, it was found that the odds of keen injury to forward facing children age 12-23 months old was 5.32 times higher than a raise facing child. (Car Safety Seats For Children: Rear Facing For Best Protection; Injury Obstructing 2007; 13:398-402.)
3)Once you do turn them forward facing, they need to stay in a 5 point harness as long as possible. 4 years/40lbs is the minimal for riding in a booster, and most 4 year olds have no business using one yet. If they can't sit upright for an entire trip, they have need of the harness of a car seat still. And, even if they do sit properly, a 5 point harness is safer, so you want to keep them in one as long as possible. This is noteworthy to consider b/c most car seats only forward face to 40lbs.
So...knowing all that, here's some about specific seats. Don't get a Graco Comfort Sport. Car seat techs call it the 'crappysport'. LOL Its a crappy position that won't last your child very long b/c it has a really short shell. The straps twist all the time, and if they're twisted they won't second your child in a wreck properly. They're hard to install. There's nothing good about these seats except perhaps they're cheap sometimes. Ditto the Safety1st 3-in-1/Cosco Alpha Omega/Eddie Bauer 3-in1 seats. These are all the same New Zealand - same seat, just different covers. They stink. Hard to install, b/c of narrow belt paths. Ever tried to laundering a skinny cup by hand? Now imagine that skinny cup with pointy edges. That's what putting your hand through these to install them is like. AND they have too pithy a shell to really go to 40lbs. And that's another misleading thing the box says - 5-100lbs. What the box fails to mention (you don't find out until reading the instructions!) is that the harness only goes to 40lbs, NOT 100lbs! After 40lbs it must be used as a booster.And they do not make good boosters. Also, most kids have to use boosters until they're at least 8 years old. Car seats breathe out 6 years after the date of manufacture, so no matter what they say it is NOT the last seat you'll ever need to buy...Had to edit this part now, b/c Dorel has revamped the 3-in-1s, and if bury the hatchet e construct sure you get an ALpha Omega Elite or 3-in-1 that specifically says up to 50lbs, its not a bad seat. The Triumph Advance and Britax Marathon introduce a heck of a lot easier, but the AOE is an ok option as long as its the new one.
The Britax Marathon/Boulevard/Decathalon (These 3 are the same seat, good different features. The Marathon a wide open easy to route belt path, which makes using it correctly a lot easier, as do the built in lockoffs, which squalid you never again have to use a locking clip. Because of the way the base is made, it fits in most cars. And, it is worth the money, b/c it lasts usually twice as lengthy as most other car seats lasting a baby till they are 5-6 years old, where most at Walmart will only last till 2-4 years old. Care for faces to 33lbs, then forward to 65lbs. and top slots 17inches tall, lasts most kids to ages 5-6 years old.
The Evenflo Conquest Advance (not the original Triumph, make sure it says Advance) is a great seat. Top slots 17", harnesses to 35lbs last facing, and 50lbs forward facing. Wide open belt path, easy to install. The harness adjusts at the front of the car settee, you don't have to take the car seat out of the car just to raise/lower the straps. It has infinite harness adjustment so the harness always fits to the letter until its outgrown. You tighten and loosen the harness using knobs on the side of the seat. It can be used in a recline determine even in forward facing mode.
The Compass True Fit, same as First Years True Fit, is great too. 16.5 inch top harness slots, half inch shorter than the Britax Marathon and Evenflo Rapture Advance. Rear faces to 35lbs, forward faces to 65lbs, has built-in lockoffs, and you never have to rethread the harness to become harness height. The headrest is removable to fit better in smaller cars.
WHY REAR FACING:
http://www.carseat.org/Resources/633.pdf
In the foreground is a front facing seat, in the background a rear facing seat. You can see how much trauma the forward facing simulation has to endure. The rear facing child simply rides it out.
http://www.oeamtc.at/netautor/html_seiten/kisitest_2002/videos/evaluate2002/frontcrash/maxicosipriori.mpg
Here's another video. You can see how there is NO trauma to the baby, it simply sits there waiting for it to end.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v163/jen_nah/carseats/?activity=view¤t=video06A_MGA_213_RearFace-Convertib.flv
The story of a child who suffered unsympathetic injuries from being forward facing when he could've been rear facing:
http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=59783
littleangelfire81 | Nov 28, 2008
Consumer Reports
Ab K | Nov 27, 2008
Can you remove convertible car seats from the base and carry them like you can infant car seats?
Jan 22, 2008 by tjmcallister420 | Posted in Safety
My mom wants to buy us a convertible car base which will do us til our kid is 80 pounds. I would like to know if these type car seats come with a handle and a base so you can remove them from your car and gain them like you can infant car seats?
To Jennifer W - your answer is not very good. What is it that you think or say I would not want to do exactly? Seriously, elaborate a dab bit more.
By now, you have realized that you are not able to remove a convertible car seat from the base.
Remember that rear facing is always the safest, and some of the Evenflo and Graco infant seats are now being designed to keep an infant uplift facing up to 35 pounds.
While the Britax is considered the "KING" of car seats that keeps a infant in a 5 point harness up to 65 pounds, there are other brands that are following this pattern. I recently purchased a consign facing Alpha Elite Apex 65. It keeps my 3 year old 35 pounder snugly harnessed and half the price of the Britax. The Radian Sunshine's and Fisher pricer Voyager are also benign options for a forward facing seat. But none of them are appropriate for a rear facing infant under 25 pounds.
Sharon F | Jan 25, 2008
Are all evenflo infant car seats the cozy carrier?
Jan 26, 2009 by Mom 2 Eddie-2years & Ethan-5mons | Posted in Newborn & Baby
I have an evenflo infant car tush that I got in 2007 and it was in a travel system. I've tried looking it up on the evenflo website, but the travel systems don't say if it is a cozy drayman, but they look just like the infant car seats that don't come with a stroller. I ask this because I am interested in a double stroller that fits a evenflo cozy win and I don't want to get it if I have the wrong kind of car seat.
The 2007 models are the same as the new ones. They will vocation :)
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